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Hear are my thoughts in order as I was reading this book.1 OMG..OMFG 2 Crapnow I m a vegatarian 3 I can never have my favorite Mongolian Chicken from Mings again snif.Yes in that order I have not eaten meat since half way through this book Will it stick I hope so.Not only the mind numbing crulety of the factory farms which is plenty , and the enviormental damage they cause, but the shear crap they feed the animals did it for me H1N1.factory farms traced back to a hog farm in one of the Carolinas They feed them antibiotics in every meal That is how the resistant strains of bacteria are bornnow they are using Cipro, which the medical community screamed out against But the farm lobbies were stronger.most chickens and turkeys can t naturally reproduce any..What They have been so geneticly altered that they can t reproduce.eeww They can t even walk.The author made the statement that if this was 60 years ago he would probably eat meat But things have changed with factory farming for the worse People want really cheap meat.well you get what you pay for. I was torn how to rate this book It isn t perfect I noted many flaws in its comprehensiveness but it s amazing enough, so 5 stars it is.I ve read so many books such as this but none for a while, and it s because reading about how humans use animals is so devastating for me It s not just the books contents, it s knowing that, at most, only 1% of Americans feel as I do, that my feelings and beliefs are shared by so few The latest statistics I have are that 3% of Americans are truly vegetarian and 1% are vegan vegetarian never any meat, poultry, fish, vegan adds never any dairy, eggs, honey, leather, wool, silk, beeswax, or, as much as is feasible, any product of animal origin Also disturbing for me is that I know that others will read this book and won t absorb what it offers but will dissociate, that even people won t have the courage or the interest to read it at all Oh, I kind of told a lie The information in here is incredibly disturbing, whether or not you ve known it I don t want to discourage readers from reading this book though, so I ll say it s upsetting but hope that people will want to make an informed consent about what they do I m hoping that s the case because I want many, many people to read this book I highly respect Foer He is thoughtful and philosophical and, maybe most importantly, non judgmental and empathetic, and he s very funny and that helps with taking in the disturbing facts I appreciated how he incorporates his Jewish background into the book, and enjoyed the family stories that he tells I m truly puzzled why he doesn t have better communication with his dog why he can t interpret better his dog s communications, but given that he started off not even liking dogs I guess he s made great progress in dog human relationships.He provides little snippets of information that are so interesting For instance Americans choose to eat less than.25% of the known edible food on the planet I always know I ll learn a little with every book I read and I learned a lot, especially about some individual animals cases.The letter on page 84 is hilarious, if the reader is already aware that the last thing any factory farmer wants is for the public to see their operations I laughed and laughed at this letter and I m so grateful it was there because so much of the book s contents caused me much emotional pain When I needed cheering up while reading the book I kept going back and rereading that letter I m glad he touched on the connection between animal agriculture and the existence of influenza illnesses in humans It s one of my perennial rants, and with H1N1 in the news and scaring me it s very topical.This book well, it will depend on what the reader brings to it and who the reader is For me, it s so obviously a cogent argument for veganism, but it s like my last stint as a juror At the end of the case, as the twelve of us were about to go into deliberations, I said to myself, it s obvious how we should vote, but our first vote when we got into the jury deliberation room was 6 to 6, not so obvious in the same way to everybody, and the deliberations ended up being very stressful People feel different ways and believe different things Foer respects that and that s one reason why I think this book can strike a chord in anyone who reads it.This book is very well researched, and Foer spent three years in some hands on type research The book proper including acknowledgements went through page 270, the notes went from pages 271 331 and the index is on pages 333 341, but it reads like the memoir it partly is it does not read like a textbook The writing is engaging and not at all dry.Well, it s good to read a book that isn t preaching to the choir ethical vegans because I think readers will be open to what this author offers I don t see how anyone can read this book and not be changed, whether or not they make changes.Foer has a beef with Michael Pollan, as do I, but I have a bit of a beef with Foer it s his book and there are many other books out there and they re all doing a lot of good in my opinion but I wish he hadn t provided so much time to give their points of view to the 4 humane animal farmers and the vegan who was designing a slaughterhouse It boggles my mind even , that those who ve really known these individual animals could kill them, especially when one is vegetarian and one other says he knows it isn t necessary for humans to eat meat I have such mixed feelings, but I m afraid their rationalizations will give permission for readers to act with the status quo However, only 1% vegan and 3% vegetarian of the American population, the actions these individuals take can make a difference Never will 100% of Americans go 100% vegan so reducing suffering and having less of a negative impact on the environment well how can I argue wholeheartedly , but I felt very uncomfortable reading these parts, although certainly not as uncomfortable reading the factory farming and slaughter parts of the book.I ve heard some vegans complain that Foer doesn t go far enough and the book doesn t promote veganism, but this book is getting mainstream attention than most books of its type, and some people say that they are eliminating or reducing the animal products they consume because of this book So Foer, along with a bunch of others who are my heroes, are putting and information out there It makes a difference This book will make a difference Hopefully, many will read this book and then continue and read some of the other many books and other resources out there as well I m very happy that this book is getting the attention and readership that it is.I found it very interesting reading this book in early November because Foer talks about American Thanksgiving in the book So, now I feel incredibly sad and very angry I know anger is a distancing emotion and I don t want to others to withdraw from me, but I have a lot of compassion for myself right now and I have a reason to feel that way and that s how I feel and I definitely need some lighter reading materials, pronto Edit Re the compassion for myself, blah blah I m not a new age type person at all and I don t remember ever saying anything like this with regard to myself, but I was very distraught after reading this book Please go read other reviews of this book Don t let my distress dissuade you from reading this important book I can guarantee that if you get even remotely as emotionally involved as I did while reading this book, you re either already vegan or you ll be grateful for the information.I do have a fundamental disagreement with Foer, who seems to think it s okay at some level to use and kill animals if done humanely I don t feel that way Maybe because I m already vegan and knew so much of the information in this book, my favorite parts were when Foer wrote about his holocaust survivor grandmother. TO SERVE MANi can t review this book can t even finish it the page count to tears shed ratio is just too high and my head s not in the right place for this shit and talk about preaching to the choir i haven t read jonathan safran foer s novels and fuckoff what he s ever written or what he ever will write he s a great man for this book alone he s a great man by default, perhaps, because most people are such evil and miserable cunts but, no set apart from a race of miserable cunts he s still a great man the problem, really, with hitler and stalin and mao and all those other guys is not what they did but what they didn t do a bad case of extreme short sightedness they set their crosshairs on specific targets when what they really should have gone after was the destruction of the entire human race logistically i know this is problematic you need to start small but i can dream, eh if i found a magic lantern, before the genie uttered and your first wish can t be for a million wishes , i d already have made my only wish that every human being on the planet be instantly transformed into a dog except for me and rosario dawson or marisa tomei decades of silence and masturbation and i d probably end up throwing myself off a bridge after a week long romp with a border collie and i d hang out with all of em i d toss a few hundred dogs into a swimming pool and do laps i d play tag in forests with em i d take em swimming in oceans and lakes and then i d retire to my cabin, start a fire, pour myself and rosario a cold beer, stuff about 3 or 4 hundred dogs into a large room, and me and my woman d take a long nap with on them the human race is capable of such beauty and goodness, and life is not easy there s little clarity it s seldom easy to know what is truly right or wrong but factory farms the torture and intense suffering of creatures weaker than us no brainer and all the war and peaces, all the mona lisas, all the moonlight sonatas, all the oskar schindlers and MLKs cannot possibly justify what we ve done to one another, what we ve done to the planet we inhabit, and most offensively, to the rape and utter destruction of the animal kingdom.my dream scenario as a result of the evil actions perpetrated on animals, a variant of swine or bird flu gets ultra deadly, goes airborne, and wipes us all out yes we have reached the point in which the kanamits should come and serve us we ve earned it and we should know what it s like to be on the other end as human beings we simply must lie to ourselves about much but not about this it is not necessary but we do and for what for the least interesting of our five senses because stuff tastes good we tolerate factory farms because stuff is yummy evil and miserable cunts do i sound too angry hyperbolic unstable juvenile like some blood throwing PETA nut am i not going to convince anyone with this tone good i don t want to convince anyone i just want the human eradicating disease to come and come soon.and if considering a vote for this review, understand that it s almost totally certain that if i knew you i d wanna toss you in a woodchipper keep your vote, miserable cunt. I am not a vegetarian Honestly, I ve never even tried to be a vegetarian at any point in my life I love steak I love bacon I love sushi I could go on, but you get the idea.With my son not being able to have any sort of gluten or artificial coloring in the food he eats, I ve always thought I was doing good by stopping by the actual farmer s stand to get fresh eggs and some fruit veggies one benefit of living in a small, hick town and then picking up my nicely packaged and already butchered meat from the store Foer addresses this in the book about how people just don t want to think about how their meat ends up ready for them to purchase, and that s surely the case with me I have no issues picking up the value pack of chicken breasts, yet I can t go to Red Lobster any since I feel so bad for those damn lobsters on display I ve always assumed operations in a slaughterhouse wouldn t exactly be pleasant, but again, I willingly ignored to really think about what goes on there.One of the main points Foer brings up in this is factory farming Corporations have taken over the aspect of farming, and of course done everything they can think of just to make it as profitable as possible The majority of all meat in this country comes from this type of farming now, and there is only a very small percentage of actual farmers left How these animals are treated throughout their short lives in these factory farms is sickening I don t think anyone who reads this book will be able to ignore these issues any I know I m not able to This book really opened my eyes not only to the ethical standpoint of eating animals, but also to the health related issues The conditions at these factory farms are vile There is no way I can feed my kids this kind of meat knowing the shit yes, actual shit it s been through JSF s writing throughout this is never preachy or whiny he just presents the facts and wants the reader to make his her own choice on the matter He talks with ranchers who are still trying as best they can to hold onto the old way of farming, members of PETA, and vegans who are trying to construct humane slaughterhouses The book never felt one sided or that it was attacking people who eat meat It did inspire me to make a drastic change though, and I think anyone who reads this would feel the same. I don t mean this dismissively, but I feel like I finally get what Charlton Heston meant when he cried out, Soylent Green is people It s peeeeople Just I don t know That movie s pretty silly, but I keep walking around the house feeling like all those years that I ate meat, I was really eating human souls And I even knew almost all of this information before reading the book I know I m being dramatic, as per usual, but there really is something about food that brings out both the best and the worst in humans I think that s part of the point of the title of this book It s about eating animals, but it s also about us being eating animals See what he did there Anyway, I can t give this book a full 5 stars because I have really high expectations for JSF, and, honestly, this book isn t extremely well organized I think the topic of what we eat is probably the most important one in American society today, though, and the dialogue Foer creates is very representative of the arguments that smart people make in legitimate disagreement over the topic of eating animals.I saw Foer read from this book at Powell s last October, and the day after that was the last time I ate meat For a long time I knew about the health and environmental issues of factory farming, but I really love hamburgers, so I thought I would just be really careful about where I bought meat I realized, though, that I really do care how we treat each other and how we treat animals, and I was not careful about where my meat came from I became a vegetarian partly because it s easier than having that mental dissonance, where I really care about all of the corruption and waste of the meat industry, but I set it aside because something tastes good Other things taste good, too It s not worth the energy I guess, the other part of why I became a vegetarian is that I forgot how to put up the mental walls between the human behavior that is so disgusting to me that is almost uniformly represented in the food industry and my condoning it by eating its products The points that Foer read from this book in October just haunt me.I don t think that death is the worst thing, and so eating animals doesn t horrify me because of the killing I really get that other people do think that death is the worst thing, and I don t necessarily think I m right, but that s the place I m at in life My friend pointed out how silly this is of me yesterday when he was asking why I love the movie True Romance so much I was talking about how wonderful I think it is, and then I was qualifying it by saying that the part between Christopher Walkins and Dennis Hopper is so racist and makes me really uncomfortable So, my friend started laughing at me and was like, So, you don t care about the total disregard for human life, but it really gets to you that they re being racist What can I say Maybe someday all of the things I m offended at will line up really neatly As it is, obviously it would offend me a lot in real life to see someone killed than to see someone be really unpleasant, but in movies the opposite is true Even then, even in real life, I think that pointless suffering, not death, is the worst thing And when pointless suffering is knowingly caused by humans, I think it s bad just for the suffering itself, but also because of what it means for the people causing the suffering What have we done to ourselves What have we made each other There is a letter toward the end of this book, written by a slaughterhouse worker, that describes this slaughterhouse atrocity that is burned into my brain now in a way that I can only think to describe as a Skye O Malley But this is a real, true incident, that I m glad was written because it needs to never happen again The incident itself was purely sadistic, but writing about it was somehow Important in the way that confessions and justice are important But also important because although this man is responsible for his own actions and atrocities, people who work in slaughterhouses, like the animals going through them, are some of the most vulnerable elements our society Both Gandhi and Aristotle are attributed with saying something like, nations should be judged by how they treat the most vulnerable among them By that standard of judgment, the U.S is not passing.One of the major themes in this book is about traditions surrounding food and the way it brings people together in this really wonderful way I think Foer speaks about family, even humanity, in such a beautiful, nostalgic, and hopeful way that there is something worthwhile about his unique exploration of this topic It is not a cold, moral topic It is about our mothers and fathers in the kitchen and our children playing in the yard while we barbeque But that doesn t remove us from complicity in what goes on to get the food to the table It doesn t excuse us There were two points he made about that particularly, which really influenced my decision to become a veggie I m going to spoiler them a little bit and probably mangle them a lot, so skip over if you wish Also, my friend made this homebrew oatmeal stout in honor of his daughter s birth, and it and its progeny are slowly changing this review into a drunk review, so there s a chance none of this will make sense anyway view spoiler First, Americans choose to eat less than.25% of food on the planet Millions of dogs and cats are euthanized every year and the bodies turned into food for our food It makes no sense for us to eat cows, pigs, and chickens that have eaten dogs and cats, rather than for us to eat dogs and cats ourselves The reason we do is that dogs and cats are pets, and cows, pigs, and chickens are I don t know Food But the intelligence and habits of the animal species are not different than each other The animals we eat are as smart and social as the animals we refuse to eat And the system of feeding meat to herbivores because we ve decided that one species is okay for humans to eat and the others aren t is so arbitrary and well, gross The thing that got me about this, though, which we all know is true but I hadn t really looked in the face before, is that eating a hamburger made out of a cow is not different than eating a hamburger made out of one of my cats And I really am offended by the idea of one of my cats living the lives that chickens or turkeys or pigs live in factory farms than I m offended by the idea of eating one of them It is appalling Animals should not be treated this way, and humans should not be in the position that they think it s okay treat them this way Second, there s a little bit of a How the Grinch Stole Christmas quality to the book that really gets me I saw Foer read right before Thanksgiving, and it turns out that the entire end of this book is about Thanksgiving His main point, I think, is that we associate meat with these wonderful family traditions, but is that why the traditions are wonderful Turkeys have been genetically mutated and pumped full of antibiotics to the point that they can t breed, can t fly, sometimes can t even walk Setting aside the fact that the first Thanksgiving didn t even have a turkey, do we show our thanksgiving best by eating one of these birds or by abstaining from it Do we show our love for each other by eating animals that have been bred to suffer hide spoiler i ve long flirted with vegetarianism for a few months in the early 00s, i even dated her but i d never truly wanted to spend all of my time with her, send her flowers, or introduce her to my parents and everyone i ve ever cared about until i read this book.foer claims early on that he hasn t set out to write a book about why people should become vegetarians, an argument that holds zero ounces of water once you actually start reading his descriptions of factory farms i found it impossible to learn about the government sanctioned degradation of our environment and the systematic mis treatment of animals as mere protein, without questioning my own complicit support of the entire system.i ll save the proselytizing for others i ll just say that despite its lack of nuance, this book tipped the scale for me i think i m going to ask her to go steady. Well, fresh fruits and vegetables are alive and responsive to light when you eat them, grain harvesters leave a wake of maimed and mutilated wildlife, and a songbird dies for every cup of coffee I suspect that last is an imprecise ratio So, Burroughs point that your food was alive is absolutely true While North Americans aren t the only people who overeat, it s obvious that we do Ninety dollars for a Thanksgiving turkey would certainly limit my household consumption. I realize I finished this book 10 days ago and have not rated itand I also can t stop thinking about it There s a lot I could say about this book and how much it made me think it s completely riddled with highlighter but honestly, most people I know wouldn t bother picking this up no matter what I say We eat animals because we re too selfish and stubborn to change We eat animals because we re too lazy to make the inconvenient choices We eat animals because we ve been told over and over and over that it s the only healthy option We don t want to hear about where our food comes from because from the little we do know, we know it s horrible, and if we were truly educated about it we d have to admit the impact factory farming has on our health and our environment and the animals we continue to genetically mutilate and make those inconvenient choices It s plain and simple It s irresponsible and dangerous to simply choose to not know where your food comes from If you re going to choose to eat it, you should do so fully informed and own the responsibility of what you re doing If you ve made it this far, I urge you to read this book regardless of your dietary choices I really appreciate that this book presented fact It s not going to try to guilt you into anything, though you very well may end up feeling guilty after reading it. This book should be required reading in America No joke. Jonathan Safran Foer Spent Much Of His Life Oscillating Between Enthusiastic Carnivore And Occasional Vegetarian Once He Started A Family, The Moral Dimensions Of Food Became Increasingly Important.Faced With The Prospect Of Being Unable To Explain Why We Eat Some Animals And Not Others, Foer Set Out To Explore The Origins Of Many Eating Traditions And The Fictions Involved With Creating Them Traveling To The Darkest Corners Of Our Dining Habits, Foer Raises The Unspoken Question Behind Every Fish We Eat, Every Chicken We Fry, And Every Burger We Grill.Part Memoir And Part Investigative Report, Eating Animals Is A Book That, In The Words Of The Los Angeles Times, Places Jonathan Safran Foer At The Table With Our Greatest Philosophers.